Why double names. Why are children given middle names in the US? The influence of a double name on the future fate of the child

Sarah Jessica Parker, Jeffrey Jacob Adams... Many Americans have two names. It turns out that this is a recent tradition. But what is it connected with?

The tradition of the second (or middle name - middle name) among Americans has developed relatively recently, in the 19th century. Until the middle of the 18th century, middle names are extremely rare in church records recording the births, marriages and deaths of the inhabitants of the British colonies in North America. Only on the eve of the Revolutionary War (1775–1783) did the wealthy plantation families of Virginia (the so-called Virginian aristocracy) spread the custom of giving children a middle name at baptism, most often in honor of the next of kin. The mother's or grandmother's maiden name was also used as a middle name.

But this practice cannot yet be called popular: of the 56 people who signed the Declaration of Independence (1776), only three had a middle name. John Quincy Adams (6th President of the United States, 1825–1829) became the first American head of state to be given a middle name at birth (in honor of his maternal great-grandfather).

However, already in the 1830s and 1840s, the population of the United States increased dramatically due to unprecedented immigration from Europe, and the tradition of the middle name spread along with it. Perhaps, practical reasons played their role: there were many people with the same names and surnames, and the middle name served as a means of additional identification. True, unlike the previous period, children were now given middle names in honor of famous political, religious, public figures and the military (for example, George Washington, the first president of the United States, or John Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism). The second name is already almost universally found in the army lists of the period of the Civil War (1851-1865) and especially the First World War, which the United States entered in April 1917.

lucia, 11.12.04 19:23

Here I read: Julia Roberts gave birth to twins. The boy was named Finneus Walter, the girl Hazel Patricia.
I do not understand why some give a single name, while others double. And in what countries is this accepted, well, in America, probably for sure, and what does this mean? What will the child be called later, according to the first part of the name, then why then the second, and if both parts, then in my opinion, this is not convenient. Here explain pls.

Alina, 11.12.04 19:44

lucia
We can give a child from one to three names. My husband has one, and the children have three (1. Kasper Valtteri Evgeny, 2. Hannu Elmeri Elius 3. Eetu August Oliver) so many names so that when the child grows up and if he doesn’t like his name, he can take from his two or three names, then whichever he likes. Here the middle one has the first name in Hanna’s passport, and at home we call Elmery. That’s how we have it

Kriksi-Kraksi, 12.12.04 01:08

We will have a double name (Stefanie-Maria) because we like Stefanie, and Maria - that is the name of both my and husband's grandmother, is very symbolic and the grannies are happy (though the husband is Maria-Katarina) .... yes, and to me I always wanted a double name for some reason ...

NENE'S MUM, 12.12.04 01:16

lucia
I was looking for a baby during my second pregnancy English names that I would like and found very interesting article. Here is a quote from there:
"Traditionally, in English-speaking countries, a child receives two names at birth: a personal name (personal name, first name) and a middle name (middle name). It is the first, personal name that seems to be the most important, essential. The term "personal name" is understood primarily " individual naming of the subject "(A.V. Speranskaya), officially assigned to him at birth. Of all the onomastic categories, personal names were the first to be documented. They were based on appellatives that were used as nicknames to refer to people. As noted by A.V. Speranskaya, and in our time, "personal names differ from nicknames mainly in that in the former, the common noun of the stems is not as obvious as in the second. In nicknames, it is always fresh ... In personal names, the common noun of the stems is almost always obscured. Nicknames every time they are created anew, personal names pass from generation to generation ... " The article itself is very long, with an analysis of which names appeared when and under what influence.

NENE'S MUM, 12.12.04 01:22

According to statistics, all English children receive two names at birth (first + middle names): personal and secondary. The custom of giving a child a middle name goes back to the tradition of giving a newborn several personal names. In the modern English name book, cases of assigning two or three middle names are more common than the complete absence of a middle name. Although there is no law limiting the number of middle names, more than four additional middle names are usually not assigned: Charles Philip Arthur George, Andrew Albert Christian Edward, Edward Antony Richard Louis, Anne Elisabeth Alice Louise. The role of the middle name at the present time is to serve as an additional individualizing sign, especially for persons who have widespread names and surnames. Both personal names and geographical names, common names, etc. are used as middle names. Often, the surnames of the people in whose honor it is assigned are used as middle names..

NENE'S MUM, 12.12.04 01:26

Quotations taken from: O.A. Leonovich chapter from the book "In the world of English names".

NENE'S MUM, 12.12.04 01:29

If interested, I can send the full article in private.

ELLE, 12.12.04 02:41

lucia
in France there are double, triple and even four names at once, but all this is in official papers, but in life everyone is called by the first name.
My daughter has a triple and my husband has a four.

cherry, 12.12.04 02:48

I named my daughter Jacqueline Lydia. The first name is personal, and Lydia is the middle name, in honor of our Russian grandmother.

Here is such an American-Russian version

ElenaDK, 12.12.04 14:28

My friends (in America) gave my daughter a double name so that she could then choose for herself what she likes best

Went, 12.12.04 14:44

In Israel, especially in religious families, children are often given double names. This is especially common if you want to name a child after a deceased relative, but that one had an "outdated" name. The first name is chosen, which parents liked, and the second - in honor of a deceased relative or some righteous person.
In Judaism, every name has a meaning, and if a person is given a name, then they must be used, otherwise there is no point in giving it. There are families where children are called by two names, there are those where they alternate.
We have Netanel Khaim, Netanel - we just liked it, Khaim - this is in honor of my dad. (Dad's name was Vitaly, Chaim and means "life"). We also try to use the name Chaim sometimes.
In general, I met children here with both 3 and 5 names. There is no limit

Marinka, 12.12.04 15:22

You know, I understand if double names are given by parents related to the Catholic or Protestant faith .... But here we have acquaintances .... purely Orthodox and Russian ... and now I can’t understand why they have children suddenly with double names ... Like Martin Julius ....

Went, 12.12.04 15:27

Marinka
and why not - maybe this is a tribute to the traditions of the country in which they live?

lucia, 12.12.04 15:31

Thanks girls. All this is interesting.
NENE'S MUM Thank you. Well, I probably don’t need the whole article, I’m just curious out of curiosity.

Anna, 12.12.04 15:50

NENE'S MUM

I'm editing now new book O.A. Leonovich (although she is not talking about names)! Cool author!

I like double names, but in Russia they are not very common ... only if they are very simple ones like Anna-Maria

Darel, 12.12.04 16:55

Marinka
We are Orthodox and we are just thinking about double names for the children (we are still planning), just to make it better for everyone. Those. one name is secular, easily pronounced in English and other languages, and the second is Orthodox, for baptism, home and family. Only we have not yet decided to enter one name in the testimonies, to baptize the other, or to enter both names in the testimonial. And while there is time, we are considering other options. For example, call Euphrosyne (record and baptize), and for the local Francis.

If you answer in general, then it seems to me often this is just a way out, like
cherry- both ours and yours.
And I also have a friend who is always called a middle name, when I saw his first name in official papers - whinnying like crazy - it doesn’t suit him at all, and the middle one is very even. Although his parents called him the first, he grew up and renamed himself - the freedom of choice, so to speak, is also good.

Kristina, 12.12.04 23:38

We have a daughter, Anna-Maria. Anna- very simple...

It’s just that for a long time we couldn’t choose what to name our daughter, Anna or Maria? We didn’t know who exactly would be born, and we weren’t sure what the girl would be, so we didn’t choose for sure. And when I was born, it became clear that I needed to decide. And already in the maternity hospital, half an hour after her birth, I myself suggested calling two names at once. \

But at home we call Anya, Manya, Musya and many more affectionate names. And the husband often calls Anna-Marie, in the Estonian manner (his mother is Estonian).
And in general, our fashion has gone to double names, this is in the tradition of Catholics, I don’t know why!

Darel

By the way, we recently baptized our daughter and I knew that one can only be baptized in Orthodoxy with one name, we decided that she would be baptized like Anna. And when they arrived at one church, they looked at the documents and saw that the name was double, and they refused to baptize us! We sorted things out for a long time, had a fight, it was very unpleasant, in the end, we went to another church, where we were baptized without any problems.

So just in case, be prepared for any incidents.

Mermaid, 12.12.04 23:58

I have a daughter, Nicole Marie...
Nicole - it seems like a tricky one. We call Nika, Nikusey ...
And Maria is completely international, widespread, biblical name, besides, that was the name of the husband's grandmother (he is Canadian).

NENE'S MUM, 13.12.04 00:12

lucia

I'm just curious out of curiosity

So the fact of the matter is that before I read the article, there was some fragmentary information in my head, but it was written like this - I read it with great interest. Now I'm inserting smart quotes

Darel, 13.12.04 00:29

Kristina
Thanks for the advice, we will be ready and take this into account when choosing.

Lalka, 04.02.05 16:14

I like double names, I just like them, that's all.
Moreover, now in Belarus (I don’t know how in Russia) you can write two names in the metric at once, through a dash. True, so far we have come up with only the first name for our son - Adam. And we only think about the second: either Adam-Miroslav, or Adam-Stanislav, or Adam-Vincent.
The latter came to my husband's mind quite recently, but I, in principle, like it.

Lilith, 19.03.05 08:47

I named my daughter Jacqueline Lydia.

Your daughter by first name is my namesake

I named my daughter Stella Sofia.
I'll explain why. During pregnancy, my husband and I thought about naming our daughter Sophia, but then, for various reasons, this idea was abandoned.
I wanted rare and unusual name, but we had disagreements about the last name
So we found a compromise. I liked the name Stella, but none of my relatives were enthusiastic about it. In addition, we were told that if we initially planned one name, then there is some sense in this and it is absolutely impossible to refuse it.
So we named her Stella Sophia. To keep everyone happy

We will baptize by the second name, but we call the first. It is basic.
Here are the things

Corazon, 08.04.05 17:10

I love double names so much! when they go together well, of course... my husband is Giuseppe Angelo (Giuseppe Angelo), and I wanted to name my son Antonio Augusto, but my husband rejected it and said that it turned out too imperially and just Antonio remained... but it's a pity .. .

Lisa, 08.04.05 17:28

Our young man name is Richard Brian, but Brian is really only on paper.

In fact, my husband has a middle name, like his father, and my father would like to make it a tradition in the male line, and give our son the same middle name, but since I was categorically against it, I myself suggested giving Richard a middle name name, like grandfather's first name. It turned out, though not according to him, but it is also impossible to be offended by this.

scorpion509, 19.04.05 03:27

It is also customary for us to give double names, we will also give our baby a double name
we want the first name to be Russian (but having an English version) and the second to be more English.
The first version was Nikita Daniel but was rejected because in America Nikita is a female name
now picked up while Alexey still thinking about the average

Talikoshka, 03.06.05 06:39

Girls, advise! I really want to name the unborn child by my father's name, or at least similar. I am well aware that in modern times with the name Israel (for a girl - Israel) a child is not very comfortable living in Russia. I read Temko and decided that a double name is a good way out. I would like the first name to be familiar to Russians, but not too common. So far, only the Lion of Israel has come up with (named mainly the first). There are no options for girls.
What do you think?

Evgenievna, 03.06.05 15:30

I really want to name the unborn child by my father's name, or at least similar. I am well aware that in modern times with the name Israel (for a girl - Israel) a child is not very comfortable living in Russia. I read Temko and decided that a double name is a good way out. What do you think?

Question number one: is it your father or the child's father? If a child, then in Russia he will still have patronymic, that is, dad's name.
Question number two: are double names registered in Russia?
Opinion: if you want to call Israel, then call it. Why not very comfortable? Many people lived their lives with this name, and not in Russia, but in the USSR, and nothing. Or are Soviet stereotypes still alive?

Talikoshka, 03.06.05 19:39

Evgenievna, we are talking about my dad. The patronymic will be the usual Russian, the surname too. All together it will sound wild. I don’t have stereotypes and never had them, but for many, they are alive, no doubt. I don't want to ruin my child's life. The difficulty is that I don’t really like the name itself, but I loved my dad very much, words can’t describe what he meant to me, and it’s customary for us to keep the name. So I want to call (and combine with a patronymic) the first name, and the second - just to be.

Evgenievna,

For some reason, the name Leah came to mind for me (since you came up with the name Leo for the boy) - this is a biblical name, and an Orthodox one too (just like Israel).

Are you really sure that Israel is an Orthodox name?

In russian language full name human is made up of name, patronymic and surname. In English-speaking countries, the scheme is slightly different: given name, middle name(s) surname.

The middle name appears because, according to tradition, a child receives two names at birth: personal name(personal name, first name) and middle name(middle name). The most important is precisely personal name. It is most often the "identifier" of a person.

For reference: The custom of giving a child a middle name goes back to the tradition of giving a newborn several personal names. In modern English, cases of assigning two or three middle names are more common than no middle name at all. Although there is no law limiting the number of middle names, more than four additional middle names are usually not assigned: Anne Elisabeth Alice Louise, Charles Philip Arthur George, Andrew Albert Christian Edward.

middle name serves as an additional individualizing sign, especially for persons whose names and surnames are widespread. It stands between the given name and the surname. The middle name is usually represented by the initial letter (middle initial) in full names:
Alan Charles Jones or Alan C. Jones

Both personal names and geographical names, common names, etc. are used as middle names. Often, the surnames of the people in whose honor it is assigned are used as middle names. More recently in England it was customary to give a boy at birth traditional name and a slightly more unusual middle name, and when naming girls, use the same scheme, but in reverse order: if a grown girl does not like the name, then you can always use the middle name.
Sometimes the personal name appears only on documents or registry books, and the middle name is used instead in everyday circulation:
Mackenzie Phillips (Laura Mackenzie Phillips)
JoBeth Williams (Margaret Jobeth Williams).

Some prefer to use their middle name as their last name:
Tom Cruise (Thomas Cruise Mapother)
Jon Stewart (Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz)
Ray Charles (Ray Charles Robinson)
Jake Burton (Jake Burton Carpenter)
.

In Russian understanding, the middle name not identical patronymic, since patronymic in Russian is called “a paternal name, consisting of the basis of the father’s name and suffixes: -ovich, -ovna, -evich, -evna, -ich, -ichna, usually added to their own name” (T.F. Efremova New dictionary Russian language. Explanatory derivational).

It is considered incorrect to write the Russian patronymic in the form of a single initial letter in the way English middle names are usually written. Complete Russian name should be written in English Ivan Petrov or Ivan Petrovich Petrov, but not like Ivan P. Petrov.

Surely you have ever seen the English or other peoples have a middle name. What it is? How is it received? Why do the British need a middle name? In this article, we will try to answer all these questions.

What is a middle name?

The second name is most often called the middle (middle name). As a rule, it is located between a personal name and a surname. The middle name is used in Iceland, Sweden, England and Israel. That is, it is widely used in Europe or various Western countries. It plays in every country different meaning. The middle name is used as an element of the full name. It can be called a "second personal name", but this is not always the case. Sometimes it is given to children in honor of a relative. It can be a father, and a mother, and an uncle, and a grandfather, and a grandmother, or even a brother or sister. In this case, you can say that the middle name is a patronymic, but in fact it is not.

Middle name in different countries

The middle name exists in many countries, but plays different roles:

1. Iceland. For example, in Iceland there is no such thing as a "surname". At birth, a child is given his personal name, and instead of a surname, they give the name of the father (most often) or mother. In fact, in Iceland, the middle name is a patronymic. In this country, people do very well without surnames, because its population is only 300,000 people.

2. Sweden. In this country, the middle name is, in fact, the second surname. Spouses at the time of marriage may write their old or new surname as a middle name. As for children, they can take the surname of one of the parents as a second name. Moreover, if desired, the middle name and surname can be interchanged. In this case, the middle name is both a patronymic and a surname.

3. Israel. In this country, at birth, every child receives a double name. The middle name is usually given in honor of a deceased relative, but names of living ones are also often given. Especially the middle name is popular in religious families. personal name parents give at their discretion, and the average, as mentioned above, in honor of a relative or righteous person.

4. England. As statistics show, absolutely all English children at birth receive two names at once (first name + middle name). In England, a middle name is a custom. Once there was a tradition, the essence of which was that a newborn child received several personal names at once. Today you can often meet an Englishman not only with a middle name, but even with a third or fourth one. This is a long tradition followed by almost all English families. More often you will meet people with four middle names than without them at all. In modern English law, there is simply no such law that would limit the number of middle names. Therefore, parents in this country can give their children as many middle names as they wish. But there is an unspoken rule that there should be no more than four middle names.

Why do Englishmen have a middle name?

The main meaning of the second name is to give a person some kind of individuality. This is especially true for those who are the owner of a common and common name, of which there are a lot in the environment. The second name can be anything - from a common name to place names, common nouns, and so on. Very often, the second name is taken as the surname of the person in whose honor the child was named. There are cases when the first name of a person is forgotten because he does not like it. Thus, it remains only on documents, and in circulation the second name is used as the main one.

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