" Swan -

Year of birth: 1928, 1960, 1992, 2024.

Symbolism of the sign: peaceful existence, tranquility.

Antitoteme: Rat. The swan, caught in the nets of the antitoteme, worries only about money and personal gain, he loses moral values. He lies all the time, he can betray even those he loves.

The Zoroastrian horoscope indicates that people born under the influence of the totem animal Swan have a calm, balanced character. They are very attentive, impressionable and smart. People-Swans have a good sense of humor, they know how to think logically. They have many friends who are ready to help.

Characteristics of the Swan

Based on the nature of the animal, Swans are mostly subject to spiritual aspirations. They are practically not interested in material goods, and they do not care about power and recognition at all. Such a person even the world not particularly interesting: he lives a rich spiritual life, constantly reflects and meditates. It is easier for him to sit still, and not to start some action. A person who has the totem animal Swan has such a quality as pride - he will never go to deceit and betrayal.

Swans do not need a huge number of friends, so they keep dating to a minimum. They treat their loved ones with tenderness and care. They need support, approval and understanding. If a loved one convinces Lebed, then this sign can change its mind, but in this case it will not be happy. Like an animal, the Swan man is very faithful in love - if he fell in love, then once and for all.

In extremely rare cases, loyalty to ideals and uncompromisingness make the Swan man cruel, sometimes ruthless. He may strive to do the right thing, forgetting about the feelings of others. In addition, he can live in illusions.

Swan Man

Based on the lifestyle of the totem, the Swan man is a truly brave and fair person. He is disciplined, hardworking and has a high intellect. The most important thing for him is work, it is there that he receives moral satisfaction and material support. Swans like to receive a stable and profitable income. There is no other way for them to earn money. They treat work as a need, necessity and duty at the same time.

The Swan man is very reliable and obligatory, therefore you can rely on him. They are punctual, accustomed to keep agreements. If once a Swan man has made a decision, then it is very difficult for him to change it. He does not accept vulgarity and vulgarity in all their manifestations. They do not like sloppy and careless people. Since the Swan man is neat and precise in himself, he requires the same from those around him. If new acquaintances do not meet the requirements, then Lebed will begin to criticize them. But at the same time, the Swan man does not like it when someone criticizes him.

Swan woman

The Swan Woman is a modest and timid person who does not like to spend time in noisy companies. They prefer to spend time at home with their loved ones, rather than go to an institution where there is a large crowd of people. The Swan woman is always ready to go to the last to achieve success in life. If difficulties arise, the Swan woman will not give up and cry, ask someone for help - she will decide everything herself.

If a woman of this animal truly falls in love, she will cherish this feeling like a treasure. It’s just that it’s very difficult to ignite true love and affection in her. Swans women can be indomitable dreamers, but at the same time they know how to think through the situation and actions from and to.

According to the nature of the animal, the Swan woman gravitates toward impeccability and perfection, but at the same time she has some negative character traits that others may not like. The swan is sure that only she knows how to do the right thing in any situation and correctly carry out her plans. If a woman of this sign is upset about something or she doesn’t like something, she will not make scandals, she will rather start sarcastic or openly speak out that she does not like this situation.

The Swan woman is wise, responsible and steadfast in her beliefs. Occasionally, she is able to provoke her loved ones, suspecting them of something, but this is in order to confirm her own significance.

baby swan

For the most part, children born under the Swan totem are very clean and tidy, polite and disciplined. Babies are very lively and frisky, but at the same time remain calm. They are easy to manage. They do not need to shout at them, to prove something to them: they do their homework independently and diligently, clean up after themselves after games, do not wear dirty clothes, do not get dirty in the mud during a walk.

Little Swans love order, and therefore with early years they are happy to help their parents with the housework, wanting to be useful, taking care of all the household members to the best of their ability. They easily adapt to the lifestyle of the family, clearly and voluntarily adhering to the daily routine.

All sorts of changes inspire fear in the little Swans. They are too attached to their parents, home, they need constant emotional nourishment and support. Swans are timid, shy, reserved kids. Often, in the circle of their peers, they are considered quiet, but, be that as it may, they are respected for the fact that they are fair and able to think logically. So that the baby does not have complexes, parents should sign him up for wrestling, introduce him to sports and team activities.

Health

As evidenced by the Zoroastrian horoscope, Swans rarely get sick, but they have a tendency to hypochondria. Due to the fact that they are excessively immersed in work, they practically do not rest and tend to spend time with a glass of alcohol. Worst of all, Swans are completely dismissive of their sensitive nervous system - they are almost constantly nervous about little things. It is difficult to say what causes more harm: the fact that they are constantly overexerted or the fact that their mood is almost constantly at zero.

At the same time, it is difficult to blame Lebed for indifference to his health: he regularly visits a doctor and follows his recommendations, of course, if this does not interfere with his work. No matter how many people give advice to the Swans that they need to rest more, they will still work until their strength runs out.

Vulnerable points of the Swan are the digestive organs, the joints of the legs, and the lungs. In addition, they are prone to bronchitis and pleurisy.

Love, family, relationship

Love for a person born under the Swan totem is a long and friendly relationship. He is not interested in fleeting romances and casual relationships - he needs a strong union in which both partners will treat each other with understanding and not forget about support. Therefore, most often the first relationship with Lebed can happen very late - he is too demanding.

But by entering love relationship or into a legal marriage, the Swan is ready for anything for the sake of the second half. In order to bring prosperity to the family, he is ready to work at several jobs, while his house will always be clean and comfortable, and his family will not feel a lack of care. Swan is an honest, loyal and caring person, therefore you can completely rely on him.

AT family life Swans are always the most responsible and practical, have a sense of duty towards their family members and place most of the household duties on their shoulders.

Career

Swans are smart, hardworking, responsible individuals who can handle almost any job. They manage to draw the right conclusions, which is very important in business, and in other serious areas where there is a need to think right.

Swans strive for harmony and perfection, which helps them to be excellent critics, as well as to become successful in a profession where it is required to correct or improve what others have done. Therefore, they can try their hand at editorial work, consulting activities. They make good appraisers of construction projects.

According to the nature of the totem, Swans will make excellent doctors who not only have extensive and deep knowledge, but also know how to sincerely sympathize with the patient. They tend to be sympathetic and compassionate. By the way, there are many among the Swans who like to approach treatment in non-traditional ways.

The most attentive and diligent can be lucky in the accounting, legal or auditing field, but in order to achieve success in politics, they are not assertive and aggressive enough.

Money

Swans are very specific about finances. They know how to bargain to the last penny, and therefore they can purchase expensive and high-quality items at a minimal cost. The Swan man will definitely check the checks and change from his wife, who has just returned from the supermarket. The Swan woman will never buy expensive things, and will constantly save on herself. When she decides to buy the right thing, it is unlikely that she will be from an expensive collection. Yes, and she will definitely think a hundred times whether she needs it.

Celebrities

Among people born under the influence of a totem animal, there are many influential, popular and famous personalities:

• Kenneth Branagh (Icelandic actor);
• Jean-Claude Van Dam (famous actor);
• Antonio Banderas (actor);
• Colin Firth (British theater, film and television actor);
• Daisy Ridley (actress, producer);
• Jack Gleason (actor, starred in the series "Game of Thrones").

According to the Zoroastrian horoscope, people born under the influence of the Swan have a calm and gentle character, rarely come out of the shadows in society, but can open up when they need it. Often they say about them: "In the still waters and devils are found." Such individuals can become successful and achieve what they want.

Totem Swan...

Accept the gift of grace
Surrender to the flow
Do not refuse the highest gifts!

GRACE

The Little Swan was resting in the coolness of the reservoir, next to the Sacred Mountain, when she saw the cave, the Swan stopped the Dragonfly flying past to find out what was there and what needs to be done to deserve entry. The dragonfly replied, "You must accept any future without trying to change (replace) God's Plan." The swan, looking at her ugly little body, replied, "I will be happy to trust God." And hid in the hole.
The swan reappeared many days later, but now she was very graceful. The dragonfly was stunned! "Swan, what happened to you!" The swan smiled and said, “Dragonfly, I have seen many wonderful things in the Sacred Mountain and because of my faith and my acceptance, I have been changed. I have learned to accept the state of grace."
The dragonfly was very happy for the Swan.

So that, the extent to which we surrender to the flow of the rhythm of the universe, to the extent that we receive on the physical level . The help of the Swan teaches us to trust the Creator.

If you have chosen the Swan Totem Animal of Power:

Swan heralds the time of understanding and development of your intuitive abilities. Swan help people have the ability to see the future, surrender to the power of God, and accept the healing and transformation of their lives.

The Swan symbol tells you to accept your ability to know what lies ahead. If you resist your self-transformation, it is better to relax; it will be easier if you go with the flow.

Stop denying (denying) what you know . Pay attention to your hunches and your knowledge of the situation, and respect your intuitive side.

OPPOSITE Swan:

If you chose the opposite Swan:

This is a warning that you have become too distracted. You may bump into furniture or forget what you are talking about in the middle of a sentence.
Anyway. The converted swan says you need to pay some attention to your body. You must be aware when you move away from the earth.
When you develop the intuitive sides of your character, the reversed swan is a sign that you are not aware of your transition to other levels of understanding. You have entered a new territory that has its own rules or universal laws.
In the world of Spirit, you must pay special attention to the unnoticed. You can read or feel information different ways but it will be gradual. Sometimes this shift is lost among your normality.
Take action when you feel "outside." Reconnect with Parent Earth.

Totem Horse (Horse)

Trust your Power!

Use your abilities for a higher purpose!

POWER

The horse represents both earthly strength and unearthly power. Horses have played the most respected role in many cultures. She is highly revered throughout the world, she is associated with magic power shaman. Mankind has done big jump forward with the horse. To use the help of the Horse was for people tantamount to opening the help of fire. Without the Horse, people were - heavily loaded, slow creatures. As soon as people jumped on the Horse, they gained freedom of movement. Now they were able to endure the hardships of long distances with ease. With the help of the speed of a horse, a person was able to cover long distances in a relatively short time, and the transportation of goods was greatly simplified. Therefore, the horse became the first animal-totem of civilization. Even motor power is still measured in horsepower. Mankind owes an uncountable debt to the Horse and the very help it brought.

Horse - has physical strength and supernatural power, in shamanic activities throughout the world. The horse enables the shaman to reach the upper world.

The shaman was walking through a vast area to visit another tribe. A feather tied into his long black hair pointed to the ground marked him as a man of the world.

Above the rise of the hill, the Shaman saw a herd of wild mustangs heading towards him.

The Black Stallion approached him and said, "I am from the Void where Answer lives. Riding on my back will reveal the secret of entering the Darkness and finding the Light."

Then the Yellow Stallion offered the Shaman to take him to the East, where wisdom lives. The answers found there will help educate and enlighten others.

The Red Stallion jokingly informed the Shaman about balancing the burdens of work with the joy of the experience of playing. He reminded the Shaman that it is easier to keep the attention of those you teach when humor is brought into the lesson.

And then the White Stallion came out of the herd, he was the leader of other horses, and represented wisdom. This magnificent horse was the epitome of balanced strength. "No abuse of power will ever lead to wisdom," said the White Stallion.

"You, Shaman, have the knowledge through humility that you are the conductor of the Great Spirit. I will carry you on my back as you carry the needs of the people on yours. In your wisdom, you understand that power is not given easily, but is granted by those who is willing to be responsible in a balanced way."

If you chose the Totem Animal of Power "Horse":

You can see how to fight for the balance of power. True strength is the wisdom found in remembering your common path. Wisdom comes from remembering the path when you walked in the other person's moccasins. Compassion, caring, learning, love, and sharing your gifts and abilities are the gateway to power.

According to A. V. Roerich, an incredible number of myths and beliefs are associated with the horse. More than one book could be written about its significance, because no animal has played such an important role in the development of civilization as the horse.

The horse was associated both with funeral rites and with birth: the souls of people enter this world and leave it on horseback. norse god One was riding an eight-legged stallion. In Hinduism, stallions are harnessed to the chariot of the solar god Surya, and in Greek mythology- in the chariot of Helios.

In Chinese astrology, the horse is associated with such qualities as attractiveness and gift.

Horses symbolize freedom, and sometimes wildness. People born in the Year of the Horse are friendly, adventurous and often extremely emotional.

The horse was endowed with the ability to predict the future. There are many legends in which horses act as clairvoyant animals, capable of also recognizing people involved in magic. In mystical terms, a horse is one of the embodiments of a magical gift in a person.

The symbolism of the horse is rich and complex. The horse can represent movement and travel. It is possible that she became your totem to help you get moving and head towards your cherished goal. The horse can symbolize desires, primarily sexual desire. The stallion often served as a symbol of sexuality, and the taming of a stallion was a symbol of curbing sex appeal and dangerous passions.

Study your totem in relation to your own life. Pay attention to the color of this horse and think about what this color means to you personally. In what form does this horse appear before your mind's eye? Does she run? Or is it always worth it? Are you riding it or looking at it from the side?

If the horse has become your totem, then perhaps it is time for you to explore such aspects of your life as the craving for travel and the thirst for freedom. Do you feel limited in any way? Are you willing to leave the past behind and move on? Perhaps you should release someone from your entourage? Or is it time for you to defend your own freedom and assert your power in some new areas of life? What are you doing to develop civilized relations in your environment? And what do people around you do for this? Do you appreciate the blessings given to you by civilization?

Entering our lives, the horse takes us on a new journey. It teaches us to move in new directions. With its help, we realize and discover our own freedom and strength.

In memory of Vadim Levin

Swan (1928, 1960, 1992, 2024)

We are publishing chapters from his book, which has become a rarity, “The Guardian Beast”. The book is dedicated to totem animals.
According to the Zoroastrian calendar, the year does not begin on January 1st.

If the Peacock has everything in plain sight, then the Swan following (more precisely, swimming) after him is deepened into himself. Such a person is distinguished by pride and idealism. Such a mental structure gives rise to faith in a miracle, in the realization of a lofty dream. The swan is very attached to the family and, in general, to relatives, and in addition, it highly appreciates friendship. He is practically incapable of meanness, not to mention betrayal. Has its own special inner world, where even relatives are not inclined to let in, because it is really difficult to approach a floating swan. At first glance, the people of this totem are somewhat similar to Storks. In reality, this is not entirely true: the Stork is unpredictable and freedom-loving, while the Swan is more dependent on circumstances. Often shackled by place and time, he rarely seeks to change what he has acquired. By the way, it must be borne in mind that such people are not too talkative.

Imitating their totem, Swans almost never leave their family, and they try to instill in their offspring their rather puritanical tastes. Often they orient children to receive fundamental education. You should not expect noisy games with children or reckless fun from such a man. But he can, say, go to a museum with his teenage son or introduce him to ballet (perhaps it will be just "Swan Lake").

Such people, in general, perhaps lack masculinity, but they nevertheless have an inner core. By the way, Swan, like Peacock, expects admiration and even admiration from his wife, but at the same time everything should be restrained and, as they say, with taste, because such a person is an adherent of the classics. Such a classic "event" as a candlelit dinner will evoke the most beneficial emotions in him. But too violent manifestations of feelings on the part of a partner at the moment of intimacy may seem somewhat vulgar to such a man. He loves gentle whispers of love, voluptuous sighs. The swan is capable of a very strong feeling (although, sometimes, this cannot be said from him, because in nature the expression of the “face” of the Swan is absolutely impassive). It is desirable that life in the family does not jam him, as a result of which the "love bar" is sort of reduced.

"Plant" the totem shown in the picture in a beautiful pond (better if it is really present there). In addition, imagine how in winter you free the polynya from ice, where the Swan can swim. While admiring him (isn't he beautiful?), say romantic words of love - they will certainly reach the heart of your beloved. It would be nice to buy a summer house or at least a house in the village, but definitely by the lake. Your Swan will be happy to visit there, unless, of course, you actively involve him in agricultural work.

In general, one should not forget the well-known phrase from history: "In order for the swans not to fly away for the winter, you need to feed them better, and not cut their wings." In other words, create a pleasant, I would say, intelligent atmosphere at home - and the Swan will be yours. In no case should you “run into” such a man - he will simply close in his world. By the way, the word "feed" should be understood rather in a figurative sense. After all, Swans, as already noted, eat a little: maybe that's why they, as a rule, are slender.

In the television adaptation of the novel "The Idiot" (meaning not the modern version, but a production more than forty years ago), Yuri Yakovlev brilliantly played the main role. In it, the totem has found a wonderful embodiment: a long "swan" neck, character - out of this world, high spirituality. Take a closer look at the soloist of the Rondo group Alexander Ivanov. Perhaps he really looks like a swan, especially in profile. I'm not talking about blonde hair the singer and the snow-white stage costumes he loved so much.

(From the materials of the IV International Scientific and Practical Conference "Tengrianism and the epic heritage of the peoples of Eurasia: origins and modernity", October 09-10, 2013, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia)

The Khakass-Kyzylians had a swan as their main totem (many Turkic peoples had a totem " kuu"). This is reflected in the legends (“Khuu Inei (the name and image of a woman in the heroic epic)”), the customs of the Khakass, Tuvans, Shors and Altaians and other Turkic-speaking peoples. So the Khakass custom of giving a swan has long attracted the attention of travelers, researchers, and scientists. The first described the custom of giving a swan to M.A. Kastrin, who visited the Khakas in 1847 and mentioned in his travel notes that of the birds, the Khakass revere the swan most of all. The owner of the swan went with him to his neighbor and treated him with ayran beforehand, gave him, the neighbor gave him the best horse. The new owner of the swan, in turn, went with him to his nearest neighbor. Thus, the swan moved from yurt to yurt until someone had to pay for the bird with the best horse. Briefly, but more clearly, N. Popov describes this custom among the Khakass, citing interesting details: “The Khakass say about the swan,” he writes, “that it is smarter and more careful than all birds and is rarely found. If a poor man carries a swan to a rich Khakass, tying a scarf around the bird’s neck, then the rich Khakass, having accepted the gift, gives it away with a horse, a bull or a ram, and saves the swan until some holiday: then he calls the guests and treats them to swan meat as the most delicious food.

N. Kostrov and N.F. report about the same custom among the Khakass. Katanov, who emphasized that it depended on what species the swan belonged to, what the new owner of the divine bird would give. If a large swan was carried, then a horse was definitely received for a bird, if an individual with yellow feathers, then a cow was received for a bird, for a small swan gray color took sheep. Having put on the swan the appropriate shalom, taking with him wine and some clothes (hat, boots or shirt), the owner of the swan usually wrapped it in a large scarf, took it under his arm (head first) and entered the yurt or house of the owner to whom he decided to present the swan. He put on a hat or shirt on the owner, treated him to wine and said: “Khuu törgeni keldi” (brought a swan to visit). After that, the bringer handed over the swan, and the owner of the yurt, who gave the horse or cow for him, hurried to smoke ayran, tied a new ribbon to the bird’s neck, wrapped it in a new scarf, instead of the one left at his place, and hurried to take the swan to another owner and also received a horse from him , cow or sheep. The swan was passed from owner to owner no more than seven times. The person who received the swan, but could no longer pass it on, arranged for himself " huu toy”(swan feast), however, any owner who wished to keep the donated bird could make a holiday, but only starting from the third in a row. The owner who arranged huu toy”, stabbed a bull or a sheep, smoked ayran and invited guests, including a man who brought him a swan. The invitee came with ayran and always with gifts (money, sheep, etc.), and thus, in essence, to a certain extent, for the abandoned swan, the loss of the owner, who lost his horse or cow, was compensated. In the Kyzyl custom, after the owner left the swan, the skin was removed from the neck of the swan and dried. It turned out a bag in which they then kept the money, believing that this contributes to the owner having money. If the one who received the swan as a gift left it, doing " huu toy”, he was usually told: “now you have something to keep money in.” G. N. Potanin made the following assumption: “at first, the swan was bought by those people who considered themselves his descendants, the rate of payment for it was established, the purchase gradually turned into a duty, and the former bargaining took the form of an exchange of gifts.” Yes indeed " kuu"The swan was used as a" bond "that is, it performed the functions of a security, shaking up the economic turnover. Subsequently, this custom among many Turkic peoples developed into a payment, that is, it began to carry out a monetary unit of measurement without a swan in kind. Under the contract of sale, it sounded something like this: huun kӧp"="a lot of money"="a lot of swans" or " huuu per" = "give money" = "give a swan" or " huuu par” = “there is money” = “there are swans”, etc., here the ending «ң» talking about belonging .

Moreover, this unit of measurement then spread in Ancient Russia: “The name hryvnia meant known number kun once equal in price to half a pound of silver. “However, mardki or kuna remained in use for a long time”, “so that in the 13th century a hryvnia of silver already contained seven hryvnias in Novgorod kunami". Also, the payment for the crime was measured in " kunah". Among the Khakasses, it was preserved in an archaic form, and for them such a view of G. N. Potanin is very progressive. In the 19th and early 20th centuries, a swan was worn to a neighbor or even to a rich person with the sole purpose of getting a horse or a cow for a swan brought to visit, since the custom of accepting this bird as a guest was still obligatory, the Khakasses accepted a swan even from Russian peasants and they gave him a horse, or a cow, or a sheep, depending on which swan they brought. L.P. Potapov reacted extremely critically to such an assumption of G.N. Although it was possible to kill a swan in spring and summer, and in autumn it was impossible to shoot it - misfortune would happen. Interestingly, it was even possible to “buy” a bride for a swan, i.e. huu how the totem influenced family and marriage relations, if parents interfered with marriage due to social status or other prejudices, here the swan could act as a matchmaker, to whom the future father-in-law and mother-in-law did not They had the right to refuse, L.P. Potapov also believes: “The swan acted here as a totem, as an older ancestor, the patron of the family and the guardian of traditions.” The Tuvans had a swan as a totem, about which scientific articles have been written, there are even swan clans Kuular (swans), reflected in modern surnames. On the basis of a set of facts characterizing the swan as a totem, we conclude that for a significant part of the Turks of Central Asia whoo was perceived as an ancestor, whose roots go deep into the Xiongnu, which explains such a divine and stable worship of this bird, which was reflected in genera, in surnames, estates, in the ethnonyms of some peoples. The surname Kuular consists of the stem " kuu"-" swan", and plural endings " lar", together " kuular" it turns out " swans". The estates of the Cossacks and the nationality of the Kazakhs have the same nature of origin from the totem " whoo"-" swan", let's illustrate our conclusion in the Khakass language, to the word " whoo"add the term" saga- "strength", the result of the merger "huusah" - "swan power" in all likelihood comes out born from a swan - the ancestor of a swan (totem); in the dialect of the Khakass language saga" has a second meaning as "war", choosing between two options, preferably "khuusakh" - "swan power", which fully reflects the meaning of the ethnonym. Consider the following ethnonym " Cumans"- literally translated "I am a swan", for clarity, let's turn to the Tuvan language " kuu"- "swan" plus personal pronoun " men'-'I', comes out ' kuu men- "I am a swan", also means from the ancestor of the "swan", however, like the Turkmens, like the Turkomans in Iraq, " chieftain'= 'I am the father or I am the father'. Ethnonym " Kuna” literally translate “swans”, “from the swan”, “swan children”, a good example, in the Khakass language to the base “ whoo"-" swan "add the affix" now" it turns out " huunun"i.e. "swan", "from a swan"; " huunynshchibischkeleri", which means "swan chickens", since in relation to people " schibischkeleri» is not applicable, then the word « fell"-" child ", and comes out" huunynpalalary" in colloquial speech the word " palalaris» is omitted if it is clear from the context that we are talking about the descendants of the totem. Our conclusions are such that for many Turkic-speaking peoples the totem was " huu", "huu" origins, which go back to ancient times, which then became fixed as an ethnonym. People kuna influenced the historical events of the Middle Ages.

The weakening of the influence of the Kyrgyz Khaganate in Central Asia and the Khitan invasion of the 10th-11th centuries. forced many Turkic-speaking tribal associations and ethnic groups to flee from the borders of China to the west and predetermined the advance of numerous tribes from the Amur basin and from Manchuria to the liberated steppe expanses. In our opinion, the Kuns, moving west, first occupied the vast expanses of the steppes of Kazakhstan and were the main core of the formation of the Kazakh people. The Kuns subsequently became part of the Cuman-Polovtsy, who appeared in Europe between 1030 and 1049.

G. A. Tyundeshev

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We continue the discussion of the definition “Tengrianism is an open worldview system of the Turkic-Mongolian tradition, religious teaching which is Tengrism.” What are the mistakes here. Well, firstly, any religion is a worldview system, and, secondly, any religion has its own traditions. The authors, in my opinion, came to this opinion based on reality. After all, indeed, at the moment of greatest power for the Mongols, the traditions and customs that had developed among them were of decisive importance. And their religion played a secondary role. Those. they could be at that time both Muslims and Buddhists. This point must be explained to the population, otherwise fruitless disputes and misunderstandings arise.
How is this confirmed? Examples and facts are here on the surface. Crimean Khanate. This khanate lasted until the 70s of the 18th century!!! When everyone had already forgotten about the Mongol domination. But the Crimean Tatars were Muslims. It’s just that their faith, like the monogols, was not very deep, although it was still stronger. And here is a handful of Muslim Tatars until the middle of the 18th century !!! took tribute from Moscow. So all R. Bezertdinov's statements that Islam is to blame for the weakness of the Turks is a lie from beginning to end. On the contrary, this example clearly and convincingly demonstrates that if the Mongols accepted Islam, they would have dominated at least until the end of the 18th century. while the cavalry was effective. Moreover, having switched to a settled way of life, they would not have been lost in history, but would have preserved their state.

• Rashit, I'm sorry, but can you stop flooding this site? Do you need the address of the mosque?

  • There is a theoretical discussion going on; discussion of terms. The fact is that wrong terms mislead people, resulting in misunderstandings. I am arguing in relation to Bezertinov's article, which is published on the site and which contains, in my opinion, statements that are incorrect. Everything goes according to the topic, and I am exercising my constitutional right, just as Bezertinov is exercising it. And you, too, can take part in the discussion. It is normal for the most opposing points of view to be expressed. And here you boast of tolerance, but in fact, for example, indiscriminately following Bezertinov, you call all the mullahs semi-literate people. And note that I am not indignant, although your statements not only do not really correspond, but are simply incorrect. I just patiently give the necessary arguments. We live in a multi-confessional society and we must learn to perceive any points of view and respond adequately to them. For example, both Christians and Muslims sometimes happen as soon as they are not called in different forums. There, no one even thinks about arguments and correctness. I, mind you, behave very decently and conduct a purely scientific discussion, and for some reason even this outrages you. So it's not possible. It turns out give you free rein, then you would have banned everyone, right?

The second danger for neotengians lies in the possibility of creating an occult sect. Occultism has destroyed many countries. But today its danger is only increasing, because in addition to the old occult practices, a whole industry has appeared to create special psychotropic drugs. And gained a lot of experience in their application. Today it costs nothing to zombify a person or even crowds of people. Do not forget that the former Turkic territories are very rich in minerals. And the financial oligarchs are looking at these riches with great interest. To achieve their goals, they will use (and already use) any means.

What danger awaits the neo-Tengrians now? This is the desire to create your own Turkic National Socialism. Say, once we were an empire. National Socialism is born very easily on the basis of a wounded national pride. The person is very hasty. He always wants happiness here and now. Therefore, people dealing with the issues of Tengrianism should avoid the temptation to build some new faith, which, according to their idea, will quickly lead people to a new country of universal prosperity. This has been and is happening all the time in world history. Even in world religions, in which the basic concepts have been formed for a long time, fermentation constantly occurs. Radical statements of Turkic youth are quite often found on different websites. Therefore, at the forthcoming conference, I think, this issue should also be covered. It should be understood that no new concepts will change overnight the inner essence of people. If a person is lazy or stupid, then it is naive to think that right tomorrow he will become smart and diligent. And the Lord will question people according to their ability. The Creator knows that man is imperfect. Therefore, it is important to strive for the Supreme Creator, and not self-admiration for one's own virtues.

In a certain sense, the “creator” of modern Tengrianism is Gumilyov, who did a lot in terms of research and popularization of the history of the Turks. But Gumilyov grew up in Christian tradition, and then he met Blavatsky and Roerich. It must be said that Gumilyov's views were formed at a very interesting moment. An information boom began among the intelligentsia. Thanks to the development of railway communication, people began to travel a lot, to see a lot. On the one hand, atheism was rapidly gaining popularity, and on the other, all sorts of occult teachings. It was on this foundation that Gumilyov laid out his vision of Tengrianism. But despite the lack of depth of research (he was a loner, after all), Gumilyov was not far from the truth. The point is that being nomadic people who forgot their original faith, the Turks communicated a lot and adopted a lot from the religion and philosophy of the peoples of both Europe and Asia. It is known, after all, that only in our era the Turks in mass order twice reached the banks of the Danube. And this is not counting other contacts (embassies, trade caravans, etc.) They were constantly in contact with Iran, India, China, the Caliphate, etc. Therefore, the ideas of Monotheism never completely disappeared from the Turkic consciousness and were intricately intertwined with a variety of beliefs.

All world practice shows that a person is weak, and that he constantly distorts that. what was given to him by God. Thus, people who study Tengrianism should make every effort to understand the truth. What issues need to be addressed at the upcoming conference:
1. It is necessary to decide whether modern Tengrianism is paganism or not? Determine what are the similarities and what are the differences. At the same time, there must be an appropriate argumentation, there must be a comparative analysis with other religions and with pagan cults. Emotions are out of place here.
2. It is necessary to decide on scientific approaches to Tengrianism. There are two options here. Atheists believe that at first all tribes had paganism, and then, they say, people themselves “invented” monotheism. The second approach is that the Lord gave people through the prophets faith and knowledge (including writing), but people over time, due to their weakness, began to mold their own gods-idols from anything and worship them.
Of course, the answers here lie on the surface. However, in our society, the humanitarian sphere is dominated by such clichés and labels that an objective approach does not always prevail. For example, atheists-Darwinists do not react in any way to the presence of their own runic writing among the Turks in the distant past. And they do not explain in any way the fact that now no one owns this script. Although already these two points completely destroy their theory. For how did it happen that the people first “invented” writing, moreover, even ruled over the world, but did not save their writing. Moreover, already after world domination, already when science began to spread all over the world, why did this people begin to worship geese, etc. Where is evolution here?
I think. that scientists need to pay more attention to the fact that in the Altai and the Volga, as well as on the Don, there were many stone idols with runic inscriptions (they were called women). Moreover, in some cases they were very similar to the goddess Ishtar (Mesopotamia). People saw the last such woman in Tatarstan near the village. Bayryak during the Second World War. But in Central Russia, these objects were destroyed as pagan cults, because the people began to go to them and engage in witchcraft. In the same Bayryak, for example, there have always been strong psychics. Meanwhile, these women allow you to determine the chronology. these are very ancient objects. They are usually well over a thousand years old. And at the same time, these are already pagan objects. Therefore, Tengrianism as Monotheism existed even earlier. Descriptions of these women and inscriptions on them can still be found in the archives.

The author described the rituals in detail. In general, the ceremonies themselves are devoid of any logic and connection with reality. They are designed for the human imagination. The longer the ceremony, the more hoaxes. Most pagan rituals are always aimed at depriving a person of the ability to critically comprehend reality. The more complex and incomprehensible the rite, the more opportunity the operator (the head of the rite) has to influence the behavior of a person.

World practice shows that pagan rites appeared almost among the very first generations of people after Adam (peace be upon him). And these customs existed in parallel with Monotheism. Sometimes they alternately defeated each other. Those. if there were no prophets for a long time, then some cults appeared. We believe, for example, that Greece in the time of Alexander the Great was completely pagan. But it is not so. Yes, there were sculptures and pagan gods. But there were also monotheists. There is an assumption that Alexander the Great himself was a monotheist. In particular, when three prophets were once again sent to Greece of those times, the inhabitants of one city began to beat them. But then one of the inhabitants of this city stood up for them. For which he was killed. Pagan customs, cults of various animals arose not only within the tribes and peoples themselves, but they could also be transmitted to them from other tribes. In particular, the cult of the dragon most likely came to the Turks from the Chinese.

• Islamists seem to speak the most about monotheism, but in reality they assert polytheism and inter-confessional enmity. They do this through a statement, saying that only their position is the original position of God, and all the rest are somewhere, somehow erroneous, and they say the true God belongs to them.
  The only and true monotheistic faith, in fact, it is Tengrianism - it not only claims that there is a Almighty, but it recognizes everyone, regardless of their confessions, equal before God!
  This truth is best reflected in the documented words of Mengu Khan, which he said on May 30, 1250: “There is only one God, under whose rule we live, under whose rule we die, whose honor we keep in our hearts! Different religions it’s just like touching different fingers of one single God!” (Diaries of Rubrak, XIII century)
  Unlike the Islamists, who mistakenly believe that God makes them people more than others, Tengrianism has the wisdom to see everyone truly equal before the Almighty, regardless of any prejudices!
  This is one of the main advantages of Tengrianism, because it gives people a guarantee of tolerance!

  • In order to study Tengrianism and to know it, one needs scientific approach. Emotional assessments, such as Tengrianism is the best, will not convince an adequate person of anything. Moreover, they look simply ridiculous. Of course, it is possible, for example, like Bezertinov, to write a laudatory book about Tengrianism. But his work cannot be called scientific, because there are many emotions and many distortions of history. But there is a whole science of theology. And in order to argue about terms, you need to know what Monotheism is in general. And it has existed since the time of Adam (peace be upon him). Those. Islam (translated obedience to God) has always existed. Moreover, in each language it was called in its own way. As I already wrote, there are about 120 thousand prophets in the history of mankind!!. And they all carried Monotheism to different tribes. Islam, which modern Muslims profess today, is just a continuation of the same Monotheism. The question is that people constantly distorted faith, invented some kind of gods. And that is the only reason why the Lord sent more and more prophets. Judaism of the time of Suleiman (peace be upon him) was a real Monotheism. But by the beginning of our era, the scribes and Pharisees distorted it, they, in particular, began to engage in Kabbalism (witchcraft), etc. For this reason, the Lord sent Jesus (peace be upon him) to them with the Gospel. However, the vast majority did not accept it. Only over time, the idea of ​​the One God became relatively widespread in Ancient Rome. But the gospel has already been distorted. The Qur'an was sent down to people only to point out to them their mistakes, in particular, that Jesus (peace be upon him) was a man, but not a god. Tengrianism went through two stages. In the beginning it was Monotheism, but at the present time it has no integral content left. It is wrong to say that Tengrianism was tolerant, because it cannot be tolerant, something that practically did not exist anymore. By the time of Genghis Khan, the Mongols generally willingly accepted any faith, i.e. listened to all the people in a row. For they DID NOT HAVE THEIR CLEAR IDEA about God. And they just had nothing to object to religious ideas other people. The absence of one's own systemic ideas about God is not tolerance, but simply omnivorousness or something else. But in other matters, the Mongols were not tolerant. They killed both the Turks and others. The question arises - why did the Mongols eventually adopt Buddhism, if Tengrianism was already the real Monotheism? What did the Islamists impose again? No. It's just that a person objectively needs some system of values, commandments. Because of the loss of writing, the Mongols are so deeply mired in prejudice. So they just had to look for some kind of faith. Buddhism turned out to be nearby. We must look at world practice. When people fall into prejudice, they first begin to engage in human sacrifice, and then cannibalism in general. For example, the tribes of Africa, etc.

    • Rashit, do you want facts? – “Record “tower”. The court of El Minya (Egypt) sentenced to death for an attack on 1 police station at once 529 “Muslim brothers”

      .... Tengri Muslimov does not like .... but it's their own fault...
      It is better for people to get rid of such a painfully illusory doctrine.

      • You surprise me. Your facts mean nothing. Under Stalin in the USSR (this is quite recent), people were tried without any special evidence at all, and what is called “packs”. Although this does not say that socialism is bad and to blame for everything. Yes, even now in Russia there are few senseless murders and some wild cases. America in general is mired in wars. Under Genghis Khan, entire cities were slaughtered according to their mood. If you delve well into the archives, then many Siberian (including Turkic) tribes were described by Russian travelers as cannibalistic!! , in which the rites of human sacrifice were practiced, etc., etc. Muslim countries are also different, and crimes are also committed in them. There is nothing surprising here. It must be judged according to other criteria. Muslim Arabs in their heyday brought a real civilization (science, culture) to Central Asia. They did not turn Asia into a colony. No. There was no slavery, etc. Even the Arabs themselves were few. There were preachers, there were merchants. The well-being of the whole people became so high that there was no one to give alms. Everyone had plenty. Unfortunately, Shiite Iran adjoined Central Asia. And these are schismatic schismatics. In addition, as it always happens against the backdrop of universal prosperity, laziness arises in people. Social activity begins to subside at such times. People begin to get involved in poetry, music. By the way, you may not know, but it was under the Arabs that the world learned about Avicene, Al-Khwarizmi, the poets Khayyam, Nizami, Ferdowsi, etc. The cities had beautiful architecture. What did Genghis Khan do? He destroyed everything. What is left after it? Nothing but destruction. Only mentions in the works of foreign writers. I, for example, do not know what modern Tengrians can be proud of. Give examples, please, so that I can be proud of you too!!! Meanwhile, many Russians speak rather positively about many Muslim countries, even though they have been brought up for centuries in the spirit of complete rejection of Islam. But the attitude towards modern Mongolia in Central Russia is now changing very radically. Those. a lot of negativity. You have to think about this. And the euphoria from Genghis Khan in Russia has also passed. Although, by and large, Genghis Khan helped the Russians create their empire.

        I could say what a Tengrian can be proud of, but in this case there is no point, because you have a prejudiced Islamic mentality, you would not see the significance, just as you do not see that Islam drives people around the world into crap, into torment, into death, into terrorism, slowly, not all at once, but steadily. Prejudice prevents you from seeing and understanding it. This is a big problem, more than you can imagine, and a problem for yourself, but nothing, you can live with that problem, although not so well.
        The benefit of Tengrianism is that it is able to preserve the free thinking of a person, so that he does not fall into dependence on delusional doctrines such as Islam. Sorry, not against you personally, it's just a statement of facts.

Thus, there is no doubt that Tengrianism is older than Christianity. I believe that it appeared simultaneously with the ancient Turkic runic writing. Part of the tribes that lived in the region of Ur of the Chaldees left for Central Asia and further to the East. We know that during the period of the Prophet Ibrahim (peace be upon him), Ur of the Chaldees was already pagan and the Lord punished entire cities there. That's when people started leaving. In the new place, the Creator could not but send people a new script and prophets. So the first Turkic prophets appeared somewhere around 2 thousand years BC. And it was then that the Turks first heard about Tengri - the One God-Creator. The Lord transmitted through the prophets not only his Commandments, but also various technical and other knowledge. Through the Turkic prophets, this knowledge came to China. Interestingly, leading a largely nomadic lifestyle (or switching to a nomadic lifestyle), the Turks began to forget their writing and knowledge received from God. But the Chinese kept them (knowledge). And subsequently, the Turks began to receive their own knowledge back from the Chinese.

The author did not mention how Tengri and the cult of the swan correlate. Based on the article, we can conclude that the Khakasses and Tuvans did not worship Tengra already in the 10th century. As far back as the 6th-7th centuries, the ambassadors of Constantinople noted among a number of Turkic tribes even the customs of human sacrifice. Comparing the various myths set forth in the latest articles on this site, we can assume that the heyday of Tengrianism fell on the time before our era. And in our era, there was no longer unity between the Turkic tribes in matters of faith.

It should be noted that totems in various tribes appeared as a result of the activities of shamans (sorcerers). The same hypnotists begin by "tying" a person's perception to some object. Through this, a person is introduced into a certain imaginary world. And then they can already be controlled. When a totem appears in a tribe, the task of managing the corresponding tribe on the part of the shaman (sorcerer) is greatly facilitated, because the entire crowd itself already sets up its imagination in advance. But the “controllability” of such a society is only relative, because the shaman (hypnotist, sorcerer) is in fact an ordinary person and cannot predict the whole situation and see the final outcome. As a result, destructive processes begin in society. This was well demonstrated by the example of the communists. At first they shot a lot of sorcerers and magicians. Being materialists, they zealously persecuted the occultists. But under Gorbachev, magicians entered a golden age. Juna, Kashpirovsky, Chumak and a host of others began to manipulate society. Behind them, of course, were certain forces that the public does not know. But we know the result. The people were first brought into a state of rebellion, and then into a state of stupefaction and obedience. And the country fell apart. At the same time, it is unlikely that Chumak, Juna and Kashpirovsky wanted such a result and desired it. They, too, were manipulated like puppets. After all, such things were described in Old Testament, i.e. these are the tried and tested tricks of the devil. When shamanism flourished in Siberia, only 800 Cossacks conquered a huge space. The Muslims only resisted a little at first. But there were few of them, and the faith was not so strong, because there was a large mass of pagans around (this is in the Tyumen region).

It seems to be an interesting statistic. The Buryats, it seems, are not so interested in Tengri, because they are Buddhists. But the Khakass, apparently, come more often. Judging by the attendance of individual articles. Most likely, in Mongolia Tengri (after all, mostly Buddhists) already know very little. So in vain R. Bezertinov accuses Muslims of the fact that because of them Tengrianism fell into decay. On the contrary, it is Muslims who tend to unite. It was they who, for the most part, raised the topic of Tengrism, since the presence in pre-Koran times of their own monotheistic religion (meaning their prophets and commandments in their own language, for example, Noah was not a Semite) does not contradict Islam for each nation. Proceeding from these convictions and from the common language, Muslims welcomed the unification of the once united Turkic people. However, this process was led by ardent nationalists who need to show the superiority of their nation at any cost. But the Lord does not love those who exalt themselves. In fact, racism is contrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Therefore, extreme radicalism will lead nowhere. This must be understood.

Continuing the theme of the terms “Tengrianism” and “Tengrism”, I would like to draw the attention of the authors of that article to the fact that, in fact, in both cases the keyword is the word “Tengre”. Just because of the uniqueness of this word for the Russian language, in accordance with the rules of the latter, one can speak this way and that. But, for example, Marxism cannot be called Marxianism or Voltairianism - Voltairism. The point here is simply in the dissonance of certain forms of foreign words. Although Tengrism, of course, sounds less attractive than Tengrism. But to give a definition of Tengrism or Tengrism (understanding their identity) can be given differently depending on one's own convictions. An atheist-Darwinist, comparing, for example, the epic legacy of the Buryats or Khakasses (in particular, the cult of the swan, which is discussed in this article) with the totem representations of other peoples, will come to the logical conclusion that this is banal paganism. Although, in my opinion, tenegrianism has a certain uniqueness. But it’s hard to write about uniqueness in 10 lines, especially after the end of the frame, the letters begin to jump. Just tired.

“Tengrianism is an open worldview system of the Turkic-Mongolian tradition, the religious teaching of which is Tengrism.” I took this from an article about the basics of tengrism. It seems that scientists will have to return to this position at the forthcoming conference. Lena Valerievna told me that this is not the opinion of the author, but a collective approach. Didn't they get "butter oil". After all, religion in itself is an open worldview system. Open, because in any religion there are theological schools, but the rest is already clear and without explanation. Definitions, as Mark and Engels said, have great importance. Looking through the articles of the authors on the site, I see some vagueness and inconsistency. And this testifies to the absence of POTENTIAL in modern Tengrianism. It is no coincidence, apparently, that there is absolutely no discussion on the site yet, few people visit. Although the site itself is very benign. Not revealing the potency of Tengrianism, scientists will work for the basket. By potency, I mean not abstract talk about the imaginary advantages and superiority of Tengrianism, they say, everything is the same here, but something much more important that can help people establish justice and equality on earth.

It only remains to add that the Turkic tribes in pagan times usually embroidered “their” bird on their bunchuk banners. And those around, looking at the embroidery on the banner, called the corresponding people by the name of the bird on the banner. Thus, it turned out that belonging to one or another clan (banner) was decisive for the tribes. "Alien" was sometimes very often destroyed without presenting any claims and accusations. Therefore, in Turkic world so often there were internecine wars. The same Polovtsy disappeared from the face of the earth without a trace, although they existed only 800 years ago. Here it is useful to make the following comparison. Russian tribes also fought among themselves until they adopted Christianity. True, baptism did not pass peacefully everywhere. We used to read at school how “He baptized Putyata with fire and sword”. However, even forced baptism turned out to be of great benefit to Christians. With a comparable number of Slavs and Turks in those days, after baptism (i.e., the adoption of Monotheism, at least, as Muslims believe, and in an incomplete form), the Slavs conquered the lands of the Turks without much difficulty. True, forced baptism was later rebuffed by unbridled atheism and the venting of anger by the Bolsheviks on the believers. Nevertheless, the foundation of statehood has so far stood firm. In this regard, Islam clearly does not accept forced conversion. For faith is a deep personal matter of each person. And the Lord accepts only sincere faith. Of course, it can be unequivocally stated that if the Muslim Turks would forcibly convert people to their faith, then the Turks, as a single powerful nation, would still dominate the Eurasian continent. However, it seems that insincerity in faith would still lead to atheism. Therefore, it is better to leave everything as it is. For it is not the nation that paints the man, but the man the nation.

What moments we do not yet see in the materials discussed at the conference. We do not see any moral and ethical norms yet. The same Rafael Bezertinov wrote about the need to unite the Turks. But on what basis can unification take place? Only on the basis of common values ​​and norms. Yes, for example, Muslims and Christians have been at enmity with each other for a long time. But now the understanding is gradually coming that we, in fact, are talking about the same Creator God. Moreover, all secular laws are based on the postulates of the Bible and the Koran. Yes, there is a difference in prayers, fasting, and other religious rites. But they do not interfere with mutual communication. As a matter of fact, in Muslim countries, Christians have always felt more free than Muslims in Christian ones, because for Muslims Jesus (peace be upon him) is a respected and penultimate prophet. But now Christians are beginning to take Islam more calmly. They even accept Islam. Thus, the rapprochement of peoples is possible only on the basis of universal human values. And, of course, it is a pity if peoples with similar languages ​​have different values.

Rafael Bezertinov, the author of one of the previous articles, should, of course, carefully read the articles of his associates. After all, he is trying to convince the Tatars that the basis of modern Tengrianism is Monotheism. For 70 years, atheists have convinced everyone that Monotheism is a more developed form of religion in relation to polytheism. Therefore, in the early 90s, when the Tatars somewhere out of the corner of their ears heard about Tengrianism and that this is an older form of Monotheism, then because of the erupted pride and conceit, they began to classify themselves as Tengrians. Say, they accepted Monotheism even before the Jews. After all, the Koran says that Islam as a religion has existed since the time of Adam (peace be upon him), and that the Lord constantly sent prophets to mankind (there were about 120,000 of them in total). It's just that people constantly forgot about the commandments and fell into the sin of polytheism. But as we can see from the example of the materials of the conference of modern Tengrians, at present they cannot be attributed to monotheists. Yes, apparently, there is somewhere a certain set of legends about the existence of the One God the Creator and about his commandments. But while we see in the role of the creator or co-creator for the most part earthly characters such as a swan, etc. Which, of course, cannot be recognized as Monotheism.

Yes, if the Khakass already had a swan totem in the 10th century, then the spread of deities among the Turks was very large. Indeed, even before Genghis Khan, a number of tribes had a gyrfalcon (falcon), which was embroidered on banners. I think that modern researchers of Tengrism should pay more attention to such issues as the underdevelopment of abstract, dialectical thinking among the nomadic Turks. advanced abstract thinking. This allowed them to develop mathematics, to engage in philosophy. Moreover, the thoughts of Plato or Aristotle do not lose their relevance until now. But following the path of further deepening of paganism, the Greeks came to the deepest crisis in literally all areas. Only Christianity straightened them out a little. However, even such a powerful people in our era could no longer do anything remarkable. The development of abstract, dialectical thinking is a matter of the survival of one or another people in modern conditions. The Creator-God created all people equal in ability. Deviations, if any, are small. But everyone chooses the further path for himself. And in this regard, the path of the main swan totem, it seems, turned out to be far from the most successful in the sense that it did not bring prosperity to its fans.